Since the Chaos Gods have no way to kill him, he'll eventually win. Battle for the title of 2nd strongest Marvel Character. Both sides are in character but determined to win. who universe. So ultimately I don't see beyonder and molecule man taking out this Eldritch incarnation. 17 Ginriu. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Beyonder 39%. Do not make any Thanos with HOTU vs threads. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. The original Beyonder was considered to be the most powerful being in the multiverse, having power surpassing Cosmic Entities, such as the Living Tribunal and Eternity. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. PR Beyonder tanked a blast that would of shattered billions of dimensions and he was bullying PR MM who repaired the multiverse with a gesture. I like to think I'm pretty knowledgeable about SCP though and I agree that from what little I do know I don't think any marvel characters have that level of narrative breaking. Hell even Strange Visitor Superman with scaling off of Mxy could take Pre-Retcon Beyonder. ago. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. 7 K. However PR Beyonder has more power than basically all of existence and attacks that destroyed multiverses were nothing to. . PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Location: Above Earth. Follow 12318. The thing is though, "Pre-Retcon Beyonder" is the Beyonder circa Secret Wars II, 1985. He’s stronger than the one above all who is pretty much god above god. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. His powers exceeded that of even abstract entities present in infinite realms, coupled with the LT who holds authority over said entities to the point where their powers are a drop in the ocean to him. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. Destroyah said: Doesn't really change the fact that PR Beyonder was as close you could get to being omnipotent then just being. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is honestly far less impressive than Molecule man, at least current molecule man. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. She inherited the Demiurgic power through her father and with Lucifer's guidance, she molded and created her own universe, and that was a vastly weaker and earlier version. 0. He is the closest thing to omnipotent without being omnipotent. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. With 1 year of prep Doom could probably bridge the gap. Pre retcon beyonder was absolutely omnipotent, the equal of the one above all. HeartLesS 25 d . Text-only Version:. Hence why people differentiate the. 4 years ago. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. According to that one guy Anos could do it,. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. Ho…Note: While the Beyonder's existence is often divided between "pre-retcon" and "post-retcon" in relation to the original Secret Wars, this is not entirely accurate. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. -Everyone full powers. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder casually eliminated Death from the universe and could have wiped out the universe in a snap. SCP-682's adaptive powers are seriously NLF-prone. "Pre retcon beyonder" had no limits and couldn't be destroyed. Hence why people differentiate the beyonder as. #6 Edited By DC_Marvel_1000. The biggest question is Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs HOTU. The Beyonder “realizes” something. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. @slacker the hacker said: "@Mackeja said: "Pre-retcon spite. 9 K. Beyonder Wallpapers. The closest you get I think is Guenpool and she just has basic fourth wall. #2 Edited By juiceboks Moderator. Beyonder stomps. Pre retcon beyonder was stronger than all of marvel multiverse combined with exception of TOAA. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. Make an false image of him, From behind the beyonder. I think Sun Wukong wins because he managed to achieve Nirvana which according to Buddhist teachers is transcendence of all concepts. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Summary. Because PR Beyonder mentioned how he wants her to return what’s rightfully his, which one of things I’m assuming that could be is a portion of his power he lent or something like that. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. Jmarshmallow. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. 4 years ago. reality equals his thoughts. #1 Edited By NinjaWarrior268. When The Pre-Retcon Molecule Man(with the Infinite portion of The Beyonder's Powers)fought The Beyonder, they were stated to be "2 of the mightiest being in ALL Existence(or, All-Fiction)". Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". PR Beyonder had full backing by Marvel Boss, Jim Shooter to do anything he wanted. Lucifer is not omnipotent. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. In Lucifer DC Multiverse is not just infinite dimensional but also existing in multiple existence as seen in his conversation with Presence. Beyonder pre-retcon Beyonder > current beyonders races. He's about cause and effect and. It will take a signifigant effort to kill the Phoenix Force, Just like Death, but he will do it. The only. I know what the title of the series is and I know the beyonder is extremely powerful but so is the HOTU. The Beyonder has always been a child-like being, which makes him very dangerous. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. Forums Battles Darkseid (True Form) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder 121 results 1 2 3 #1 Soratoumiga 4 years ago #2 ProfessorRespect Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder = TOAA > Eternity 1st Retconned Beyonder < Cosmic Cube (Because part of the power was in Owen Reece) Recent Retcon Beyonder < the marvel abstracts but not by much. KuRuPT Thanosi. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. . Pre retcon Beyonder & MM > Lucifer Morningstar > The Endless. Ima go with byonder. Pre-Retcon Beyonder ruins them casually. He was the single most dangerous threat the Marvel multiverse had ever faced, until he was retconned into a more limited character with varied origins. Sign in to edit View history Talk (0) List of all notable quotes by or about Beyonder (Earth-616). Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. Yeah Mxy is tough as shit, and probably wont go down. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. But it turns out. Spite. This is the biggest mismatch. Beyonder explicitly said "everything you can dream about, I can do", and it is confirmed by few characters present there. I really can't be asked to go. The same exact way Presence is the Supreme Being of the DC Multiverse. Be careful man, soon the Lucifer fanboys will come out and lecture you about how Lucifer will curbstomp every single fictional being. Doomslayer can beat 69420 trillion Master Chiefs and has literally indestructible armor he stomps. She surpasses him in raw power by far. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 21 K. . Pretty sure it wasnt stated to end so. Who is pre Retcon beyonder? Summary. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has more statements of powers than the new ones. So the information given is contradictory as a Cosmic Cube can't do what the Beyonder did but he canonically does those things. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. User Lists: 20 Perpetua, due to far surperior feats. The omnipotent Beyonder is on a destructive rampage and has decided to destroy the entire Marvel omniverse. The Beyonder doesn’t know what the abstracts will say. Isn't that pre retcon beyonder? post retcon last i can remember was way weaker than pre retcon beyonder and Fu walks around from High hyperversal to Outerversal. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes. Protege was getting the upper hand on Beyonder rather quicky b4 LT inturrupted their fight, i say Protege ". New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Forum Posts. He hailed from, and was one with the Beyond-Realm, a featureless dimension outside the entirety of the Multiverse, and upon descending into the physical reality he was shown to be immensely superior in. Lucifer is a different beast. But i think they have more "battle feats" (killed LT, killed millions/billions/or much more than that, of celestials (since they killed all of then from all multiverse). #2 Stalin-Is-Steel. He was basically like if God tried to create a champion capable of doing just about everything that. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. But Lucifer should win this quite handily. As a result, for his experiment, he. #5. Fighting place: Dr. Originally posted by Endless Mike Not as powerful as Squirrel Girl Isn't SG like tied with TOAA in power or something? She stomps all of fiction at the same time, and does it repeatedly over and over again. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. . so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Round 1: CAS vs. ago. Prepare for. Second, Beyonder would stop Mxy from going out of the comic, trapping him in the Beyond-Realm (himself). Beyonder can destroy the concept of death to the point that above Infinite-D beings like Molecule Man couldn't kill a freaking flower and can restore it while being power depleted with just a. Though with infinite power he is far more concerned about his place in life after being the all and everything within his realm he tries to understand the concepts of Life, Death, and Desire all things that he want experience. destinyman75. FIRST COSMOS. " Yep this is a pretty easy win for Frank 14 years ago. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Period. No, that was post-retcon Beyonder. (Please add any important quotations that may be missing, ensuring to cite the original source. Pre-Retcon Beyonder Vs. Tons of awesome Beyonder wallpapers to download for free. He's just on a whole nother level from GEB. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. Not only that he struggled heavily against madrakk and trust me Beyounder is infinty stronger than Mandrakk. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is far. 0. This topic is locked from further discussion. Jan 22, 2017. Bloodlusted. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is literally millions of times more powerful than the Marvel creation which contains infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses upon infinite multiverses and so on into infinity. the beyonder is literally the embodiment of a universe which dwarfs the mainstream multiverse, so he can do the same thing for the multiverse, but not all of marvel (since marvel is an omniverse. #2. Phoenix vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder = probably Beyonder unless we are using the level where Phoenix possessed the power to destroy him. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1 Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal 4 years ago #2. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Poll Eru Iluvatar vs Beyonder ( Pre Retcon ) (41 votes) Eru 61%. deactivated-621c40d36c53f. He is his total opposite and equal in power. Beyonder is marvel. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. The Beyonder realm might be a million times bigger than the entire Marvel Multiverse combined but in the end it's still part of the larger multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonders was described to be like a child compared to the Beyonders we are seeing now. This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. A Time Lords) from the. The Beyonder was once a God with limitless powers in the Marvel Omniverse. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. Pre-retcon molecule man is the most powerful version of recce. The Beyonder is bloodlusted. Round 1: All-Mighty vs True Form Oblivion. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . It's similar to how using the Super Exciting guides for SSJ Multipliers should not take away from Goku's feats in 1990 when his SSJ form alone in the Namek Saga was far above a Galaxy busting Freiza. Pre-Ret MM having abstracts such as LT and Eternity beg him to fight Beyonder implies he's one incredibly powerful dude. Pre Retcon Beyonder is TOAA of a world much much larger than Marvel Multiverse. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is probably here as well. But Pre-Retcon Beyonder was around during 1985 during secret wars; making this databook not applicable to the Beyonder on the post. #20. Most being have failed, and only two holds the hope of all creation. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. CCC Gilgamesh vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. -Beyonder/s are bloodlusted. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. The same way AAO is the Supreme Being of the Marvel Multiverse. . You need to be logged in to post comments. Yeah. . Archived post. That makes me believe that Beyonder may not be all that he is made out to be. Thanos w IG and heart of the universePre-Retcon Beyonder is infinitely more powerful than anyone not omnipotent. Battles. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. R4 - Pre Retcon Beyonder takes on the 5 and the Defenders members at the same time. the_doctor. He can't exist beyound the source wall which limits him to not a 11-D being but probably a 10-D. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. (616)Spider-Man with the powers of the beyonder vs these verses. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. 14 years ago. . GEB=Anti Pressence. Gan and Crimson King are basically super-amped versions of P. The Beyonder is millions of times more powerful than the combined power in the multiverse which includes the Living Tribunal - Scan 1. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own magnetic. Does it matter by that logic Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) because he didnt resist doom taking his power thats a contradiction in your opinion about PR Beyonder. A Beyonder easily ripping off Thor's arm. so i think the only characters that can beat him are tier 0 characters like boundless. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. . 1. @baron_von_santa: Doubt it, Pre-Retcon beyonder was supposed to be the ToAA of another reality but was later retconned into the "Cosmic Cube" crap. The beyonder is a person from another plane of existence called the beyond which is larger than the marvel multiverse. ". 13 years. Pre Retcon Beyonder is the Supreme Being of his Multiverse. Pre-retcon Beyonder was significantly more powerful than the Living Tribunal. " Uhhh, yes it does. Azrael and Time(Discworld) 4. Both are in character. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. In the pocket dimension, classic doctor strange would do exactly what he did. Dreamxd26. It's my understanding that Anti-Monitor is on a lower tier than the Living Tribunal, who in return is far below pre-retcon Beyonder. WF Mxy vs Pre Retcon Beyonder is basically picking which company you like more : DC or Marvel. Additional comment actions. After that he was retconned to a far less powerful cosmic cube. But it wont be easy by no means. Yglorba • 3 yr. Motivation: ROB Fight in ROBverse. Beyonder (Earth-616)/Quotes Category page. PR Beyonder curbstomps. Jul 30, 2018. Apparently due to the latest post about Doom people are claiming some Bleach characters like Aizen can beat The God Emperor. g. 1 year ago. Scarlet King (SCP) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (Marvel) R2:The scarlet demon, WOW I am speechless. #1 Edited By LightningGod67. As I said I'm not intimately familiar with pre retcon beyonder or even marvel comics overall. Been done here on the vine. Lucifer is way above pre Retcon BeyonderPRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. Forum Posts. Forum Posts. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. deactivated-5d45fd7ce1a16. Pre-Retcon Beyonder/Classic Beyonder-As a result of being the entirety of a dimension of far more scope than our own multiverse, he was more powerful than all of the rest of reality (he was. The Beyonder and the Molecule Man, also known as Owen Reece, have a complex and tumultuous relationship. Children can be extremely capricious, and a being as powerful as the Beyonder with that attitude can be very dangerous. Adviser (Vs)Pre- Retcon Beyonder would not be that much powerful if he came now. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. Join this channel to get access to perks:…The Beyonder was an impossibly powerful being who held the Secret Wars, essentially kidnapping a whole bunch of heroes and villains and making them fight for his. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. There is literally nothing that OPM could do to even affect him. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon Feats, Secret Wars and 1984 and pre-1984 Scaling only) Ivory Kings, First Firmament + Ultimate Ultimates. From what I know of Sun Wukong, he doesn't even come close to him. Even The. For reference Pre-Retcon Beyonder is stronger than the Infinity Gauntlet by leaps and bounds but a Cosmic Cube is stated and shown to be vastly inferior to the Infinity Gauntlet. Living Tribunal is beyond Eternity, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder was more powerful than LT. Mxy is done. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. Wiki Points. It's more like the One Above All kind of power. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes beyond all that. loveNwar. Now I made a lengthy blog detailing the powers of the Beyonder, Post-Retcon. Originally posted by. His presence alone destroyed infinite universes. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive battle between many of the mainstream. If PR Beyonder is superior to TOAA then God Emperor. People already think Pre-Retcon Beyonder is around the One Above All (directly below, equal, or above), so this new big bad is gonna be busted in a confusing way, since a fraction of his is power. Beyonder still probably loses to Thought Robot Superman, Final Batsuit Batman, Anti-Crisis Wonder Woman, Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos, Perpetua, the Darkest Knight, true form Darkseid,. Victory by permanent death or erasure. . As PRB is an embodiment of Infinite Dimensions + Beyonder Realm in totality, and there is no evidence that Demonbaneverse is. 1. 8 years ago. Lucifer does not stand a chance here. • 1 year ago. Beyonder, when first created, could defeat Galactus, because he was. FollowRound 5: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man vs God Emperor Doom Round 6:Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God Emperor Doom Bonus Round: Protege vs God Emperor Doom This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A GregLeagueGamingAlt •. The recent additions of the Heart of the Universe as an accepted Canon Thing, and the Pre-Retcon Beyonder's revisions were the first results of such result. Pre-Retcon Beyonder has no physical form, no spiritual form, and or astral form but can take on these forms when he chooses and Beyonder was once Infinite Dimensional and even still his physical form. Beyonder isnt really known for prep anyways. @Ziro: Pre-Retcon Beyonder got his powers taken away by Dr. deactivated-5ffd6af867550. This is a spite thread then . We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. The only other non-Omnipotent characters in Marvel who might even rival a bloodlusted pre-Retcon Beyonder for one are the Infinite Infinites and Divine Creator VIA narrative wanking. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. Forum Posts. Aug 9, 2016. He. Followers. The living embodiment of The Beyond Realm, a reality outside of the Marvel multiverse, he utilizes his powers over reality, space, and time to observe the never-ending battle between good and evil, serving as both an ally and enemy to Earth's. Poll Shinra Banshoman vs Pre Retcon Beyonder and Lucifer Morningstar (115 votes) Beyonder and Lucifer erase Shinra on accident 16%. • 1 year ago. Precursors and Silentium Flood (Halo) vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder (616 Marvel) Apparently, the Precursors are massively multiversal as the Forerunners, who are inferior to them, can use entire universes to power themselves. Hit a Like And Subscribe To Help Out💵 “Wanna Donate/Support? 💵👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇💰PayPal💰. Regulator Thanos wins, both these characters are above LT in power scope, however the HOTU. 0. Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. Reality merely became whatever the Beyonder's imagination was. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. So they pretty much stomps the likes of Galactus, Mephisto and etc who are universal at most. Archived post. Beyonder was at TOAA level pre-retcon. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. 7. Beyonder stomp beyond comprehension. Assuming the several dimensions to be universes isn't something streched considering the PRB power. Abraxas, the personification of the destruction of the multiverse, is likely somewhere around here, although since he only appeared in a few issues of Fantastic Four as far as I know, it's hard to tell. synnar the. 8. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel :. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. He may have to resort to starving them out by erasing humanity though. He also sits just below the prime meta-versal being in his respective property. Reviews: 0. Morals are on for Shuma. At that time, The Beyonder was more powerful than the Living Tribunal and thus everything else in the Marvel Universe. Reason? Preretcon beyonder can stand against TOAA and LT. [deleted] • 8 yr. Post-retcon Beyonder loses hands-down. #1 Edited By gokupwnzalllol. Round 2: All-Mighty vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder. THe nature and effects of the Retcon are irrelevant. 3 years ago. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was. Pre retcon Beyonder. 3. The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. so the 1st retcon beyonder. But technically TR isn't a part of DC comics , the author has made it like DC comics ends at limbo and TR lives in the meta state , everything appearing.